benghazi is a prime example of it. but it leads you to believe and to know that there are many other decept jones that are a part -- deceptions that are a part of this white house and the mode of operation here in washington, d.c. >> if there is a reasonable explanation for any of the confusion, you know, tell us. you know, lay it out. don't give us more silly stuff. don't hide more stuff. frankly, i don't like the fact that ambassador rice met behind closed doors with the senators. i would rather have her answer questions to reporters. but that didn't happen. there is an awful lot done behind closed doors in this town that should be put out in the open. the american people can take it. they can handle it. they are big people. >> yeah. absolutely. by the way, it was a fascinating interview that you had with senator collins yesterday. i precked that new information was exposed because of you asking questions of her. and she, having had that opportunity to speak with susan rice. i think that the discussion, after hearing